{"id":127,"date":"2023-10-07T15:54:05","date_gmt":"2023-10-07T22:54:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/is-with.us\/?p=127"},"modified":"2023-10-07T15:54:05","modified_gmt":"2023-10-07T22:54:05","slug":"proto-prophets-seekers-seers-conspiracy-theorists-and-other-busybodies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/is-with.us\/?p=127","title":{"rendered":"Proto-Prophets: Seekers, Seers, Conspiracy Theorists and Other Busybodies"},"content":{"rendered":"<h6>Liars, Falsehoods, Misdirection and &#8220;Misinformation&#8221;<br \/>\nor: &#8220;Are they Politicians, or Psychotic Sociopaths?&#8221;<\/h6>\n<p><strong><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-128\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/soapbox.jpg?resize=208%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Politician Lying\" width=\"208\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/soapbox.jpg?resize=208%2C300&amp;ssl=1 208w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/soapbox.jpg?w=312&amp;ssl=1 312w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 208px) 100vw, 208px\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Everybody has had that skin crawling, butterfly in the stomach, dizzy feeling <\/strong>one time or another.\u00a0 The one where someone you know has told you something that you think is fishy.\u00a0 You don&#8217;t KNOW because there isn&#8217;t any OBVIOUS proof, but no matter how plausible it might seem you do know it&#8217;s off somehow.\u00a0 \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychologytoday.com\/us\/basics\/gaslighting\"><strong>&#8220;Gaslighting&#8221;<\/strong><\/a> is a real thing and can even be used by people the closest to you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Police, politicians, &#8220;Mainstream Media&#8221;, &#8220;Intelligence&#8221; Services and (other) criminals and criminal organizations regard it as a high art form.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Christians will tend to reason that they should <strong>honor and obey people with authority over them<\/strong>.\u00a0 This is all well and good, and truly biblical; the people who Jesus told you to honor and obey are your <strong>father and mother, your teachers and your pastor.<\/strong>\u00a0 People who have <em><strong>Godly<\/strong><\/em> authority over you, who deal with you<em><strong> righteously<\/strong><\/em>, with your <em><strong>best interests in mind<\/strong><\/em> and with a goal toward <em><strong>salvation, furtherance of the Gospel and the Kingdom of God<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NOT<\/strong> &#8211; someone who lies to you in order to get incriminating evidence.<br \/>\n<strong>NOT<\/strong> &#8211; someone who uses OR misuses authority over you granted by worldly law in order to imprison you or deprive you of God given rights.<br \/>\n<strong>NOT<\/strong> &#8211; someone who would lie to you to gain a position, achieve a political agenda or win an election.<br \/>\n<strong>NOT\u00a0<\/strong>&#8211; an organization of <em><strong>any kind<\/strong><\/em>, that uses manipulation, lies, half-truths, misdirection, theft, murder and\/or kidnapping to achieve <strong>ANY goal of ANY sort<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>You owe them <strong>nothing.<br \/>\nNot even the slightest respect.<\/p>\n<p><\/strong><!--more--><\/p>\n<h6>What exactly IS a &#8220;proto-prophet&#8221;?<br \/>\nor: &#8220;if his prediction came true, can he still be a false prophet?&#8221;<\/h6>\n<figure id=\"attachment_129\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-129\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-129\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Alex-jones-frogs.jpg?resize=300%2C169&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Alex Jones\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Alex-jones-frogs.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Alex-jones-frogs.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Alex-jones-frogs.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Alex-jones-frogs.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Alex-jones-frogs.jpg?w=1208&amp;ssl=1 1208w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-129\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">They are turning the frogs gay!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Being as I am writing from a personal viewpoint and experience,\u00a0<\/strong>some conjecture, observation and Godly inspiration and not because &#8220;I read something somewhere&#8221;, I am creating new (as far as I know) ideas and may coin some terms to describe them.\u00a0 I will use biblical passages, what research exists (if any and if I can find it) to back it up.\u00a0 But this is <em><strong>NOT doctrine<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 This is purely an <em><strong>educated opinion<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>First the definition:<br \/>\n<strong>Proto-Prophet<\/strong>: a person who has been called to the ministry office of a Prophet, but as yet either doesn&#8217;t understand the calling, or is not (yet?) a Christian so is unfamiliar with God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and Spiritual gifts and ministries.\u00a0 This person will have a strong compulsion to find and reveal the truth, and an ethical revulsion toward lies, misdirection and half-truths.\u00a0 They will find themselves under continuous attack and pressure of a physical, mental and spiritual nature, and often depending on their strength of character may even thrive on it.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I am using <a href=\"https:\/\/infowars.com\">Alex Jones<\/a> as an example NOT because I think he is a prophet, false prophet or even a proto-prophet.\u00a0 But because he seems to tick off all the requirements (symptoms?) of what would make him a &#8220;proto-prophet&#8221; if he had the stamina, bombastic personality and wherewithal to become an obnoxious media personality&#8230;and I like watching him sometimes&#8230;and to troll a friend who hates him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Now a &#8220;proto-prophet&#8221; is NOT a prophet.\u00a0 <\/strong>He is by any measure only a potential, a &#8220;maybe someday&#8221;.\u00a0 Generally speaking, the way he would get to the truth, or any &#8220;prediction&#8221; would not be through the spirit of God, but through research, digging, asking questions and other worldly means; None of which are denied to a Prophet of God.\u00a0 As a human being with the power of choice he can reach his potential and become a Prophet, fall to his fleshly temptations and become a FALSE Prophet, or live out his life doing neither.<\/p>\n<h6>What then is a FALSE Prophet?<br \/>\nor: &#8220;His prediction came true, sorta, so why are his pants on fire?&#8221;<\/h6>\n<figure id=\"attachment_131\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-131\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-131\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/191_1pants_on_fire_version_2-636x310-1.jpg?resize=300%2C146&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Liar liar!!\" width=\"300\" height=\"146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/191_1pants_on_fire_version_2-636x310-1.jpg?resize=300%2C146&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/191_1pants_on_fire_version_2-636x310-1.jpg?w=636&amp;ssl=1 636w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-131\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pants on Fire!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Answer: His pants are on fire because he has one foot in hell.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>A FALSE Prophet is a prophet of Satan.<\/strong>\u00a0 His predictions, pronouncements, discernments and encouragements are meant to lead you away from righteousness, because his motivation and desires are selfish and Satanic.\u00a0 He has made a conscious choice to oppose Godliness and righteousness and serve Satan and unrighteousness.<\/p>\n<p><strong>His predictions and discernments may even be superficially true.<\/strong> But his directions and instructions lead away from God, and into sin.\u00a0 What make a False Prophet = FALSE is not a wrong prediction.\u00a0 Prophecies fail.\u00a0 Prophets are human and can be wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Seers and diviners and fortune tellers are not even False Prophets, though they are playing with evil spirits.\u00a0 Generally, they are just ignorant, or given over to a purely profit motive (pun intended).<\/p>\n<p><strong>A False Prophet speaks with the voice of his master, SATAN.<img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-132\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/mouthofsatan.jpg?resize=231%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Mouth of Satan\" width=\"231\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/mouthofsatan.jpg?resize=231%2C300&amp;ssl=1 231w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/is-with.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/mouthofsatan.jpg?w=769&amp;ssl=1 769w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 231px) 100vw, 231px\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Liars, Falsehoods, Misdirection and &#8220;Misinformation&#8221; 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