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Of Prophets, Prophesies, Heresies and what the Five-Fold Ministry is

Religion
What the Five-Fold Ministry is:
or “just how do I fit in this mess?”

OK first of all, I don’t want to bump into people’s egos or preconceptions.
This is something that can scrape against a lot of denominational doctrines, but it is NOT meant to raise hackles.  Just as a definition of terms.

“Five-Fold Ministry” is a term coined by modern evangelical ministries.  It comes from Ephesians 4:11-16
” And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.”

The phrase itself does not occur in the bible, but is a simplification of basic church hierarchy:
Apostles go out and establish individual churches and ministries, raise up and anoint pastors and teachers, organize everything, then leave to the next place.
Prophets are guides, agents of correction, leaders in times of trouble, speakers of God’s voice for warning or comfort or both.  They often go from church to church where needed and are not always welcomed.  Because if a prophet comes, it usually means some kind of change and upheaval.

These two ministries usually follow behind:
Evangelists who go from place to place preaching the gospel of repentance.  They make converts, baptize them, teach them some basics, then move on.  It is a ministry that all Christians are called to at some level, but some are called to specialize in it.  An example, and highest modern standard would be Billy Graham.

Which comes to the basic pillars of the church:
Pastors who are the shepherds of individual churches and
Teachers who are the ones teaching sound doctrine and the Bible.
These two ministries go hand in hand for a strong well-balanced church.  Where apostles, prophets and evangelists come and go, a pastor is there for your lifetime, ideally.  He is there for births, deaths, marriages, counseling, exhorting, preaching to and aiding the individuals in his church.  The teacher is there in Sunday School, sometimes K-12 school and beyond as well depending on the church, passing on knowledge to children and adults.  You may have a teacher teaching your grandchildren who taught you as a child.

These five are specifically JOBS, that are LEADERSHIP POSITIONS in the church and are distinct from “spiritual gifts”.  For example: a prophet will prophesy, but you may prophesy but not hold the “office” of “prophet”.

All 5 are also analogues of leadership positions in the secular world.
An Apostle is an entrepreneur of churches.
A Prophet is an innovator or provocateur.
An Evangelist is a recruiter and a salesman.
A Pastor is a shepherd, or a business owner, or a father, or all of them.
A Teacher is…well, a teacher, an integrator, or an editor.
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Full disclosure: Prophecy, Callings, the “End Times” … and context

Politics, Religion
First of all, Context:

Oh, to be trapped on an island, thousands of miles from the “mainland”.  Run by people who hate you and want to kill you and take your stuff!  Such fun!
Lahaina Wild fire Aug. 8. 2023
No alarms warn you, even with the world’s most elaborate siren warning system.  Water is straight up DENIED to firefighters by the unelected government goon in charge of such things for HOURS.  The police block all exits, roads, etc. going out of the fire area and turn people back into the fire rather than helping them to escape.  Food, water and medicine relief actively blocked.  Federal government employees sent there to “help” put up in luxury resort hotels for thousands of dollars a day while people who have lost everything “allowed” a pittance onetime payment most of them can’t even get.  The governor of said island, in his “wisdom” and clairvoyant far sightedness declaring a “state of emergency” three weeks prior to the fire giving emergency powers to another unelected government goon over building permits and environmental laws to BYPASS them as needed.  Then two days after the fire declaring his intention to “buy” up generationally owned properties and (I guess) “Build Back Better”.

You getting where I am going here?

This is not an article about Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii. There are plenty of people who are there and can report far better on it than I can.  They are TRYING to, and you need to PAY ATTENTION.
HustleBitch (@HustleBitch_) / X (twitter.com)
lahaina fire coverup – YouTube
Brush Junkie – YouTube

No, this is an illustration.  A reflection.  A warning.

The “government” (Federal, State, Local) is not your friend.
The “police” are not your ally or friend.
They do not want to “help” you.
They are not there to “protect” you.
“Justice”, “right and wrong”, “morality” and “lawful conduct” are just words they use ON you.
“Governments” exist to tax, count, “oversee” and control you, ultimately to the point of killing you and taking your stuff.

The SOLE purpose of the “police” is to facilitate that by using force, finding ways to arrest (legally kidnap) you, and “gathering evidence” to convict you of a “crime”.  As a happy consequence of that, almost coincidentally, their presence tends to cut down, slightly, on actual criminals doing actual crimes like murder, rape, robbery and such.

Individuals, being what “individual” means, in government and police sometimes are good people, trying to do the “right thing”…”protect and serve”…<legalese weasel words>…blah blah blah (Please Don’t Shoot Me FBI?)…
But for the most part, people who seek out those positions are there for the power high.   This is something the founders of my country (USA USA USA) knew VERY well.  This is why they included the Bill of Rights into the constitution.
By the way (gruesome Newsome), anyone who seeks to “amend” ANY of those protected rights in ANY way is an enemy of liberty, and basically just wants to make it easier to kill you and take your stuff.  

Prophecy, Callings, the “End Times” …or, “What does this have to do with being a Christian and going to church and trying to walk with God?”

This article is directed mainly to American Christians who for the most part have completely screwed the pooch, dropped the ball, been deceived by good times and normalcy biases.  Thankfully some have begun to stir a little, rub their eyes, look around, and sleepily declare: “Wha…happen…huh?”
It only took a few years of degenerates rubbing their genitals in their children’s faces, the burning of our cities and businesses, the convergence and destruction of our institutions, the almost complete fall of western civilization and the potential threat of complete nuclear annihilation.
That’s all, no biggie.  Time for uppsies, sleepyheads. Continue reading Full disclosure: Prophecy, Callings, the “End Times” … and context →

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